Friday, August 31, 2012

Ed Morrissey Offers Hot Air About Janseville Plant

My first contribution to "Busting Newsbusters," yesterday, dealt with NB's Matt Vespa and a brief piece he penned about matters related to the now-shuttered General Motors plant in Janesville, Wisconsin. Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan had said some things about it that weren't true, some MSNBC hosts had objected, and Vespa attempted to take them to task, but only succeeded in making a first-rate mess of the issue. I noted that every "fact-checking operation had refuted Ryan’s remarks, but that the righty blogosphere was defending them. One such defense comes from Ed Morrisey, over at Hot Air, and while his piece is certainly full of hot air, it's as dishonest, when it comes to substance, as Ryan's remarks.

Ryan had trashed the Obama for promising, during a visit he made to the Janseville plant as a presidential candidate, to keep the plant open, then allowing it to close in 2009. Obama never made any such promise, though, and GM decided to close the plant before he ever became president. The plant was essentially closed in December '08--its main line was discontinued, its workforce (thousands of employees) was fired, and only a skeleton crew of a few dozen people were kept on for a few more months to finish a last pending order by Isuzu.

Morrissey concedes the decision to close the plant was made in '08--that, alone, puts him a head over some of the clowns who have attempted to defend Ryan--but, while insulting Ryan's critics as being without research skills, he makes a complete mess of the basic facts of what happened and when.

Morrissey flushes any hint of intellectual honesty right down the toilet by playing the same game as the rest of Ryan's defenders, pretending as if that skeleton crew finishing that final order meant the plant was still open for business in 2009, and that Obama made a "promise" to keep the plant open. He quotes Ryan from the RNC speech:
President Barack Obama came to office during an economic crisis, as he has reminded us a time or two. Those were very tough days, and any fair measure of his record has to take that into account. My home state voted for President Obama. When he talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in Janesville, where we were about to lose a major factory.

A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: “I believe that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years.” That’s what he said in 2008.

Well, as it turned out, that plant didn’t last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day. And that’s how it is in so many towns today, where the recovery that was promised is nowhere in sight.
The bolding, there, was by Morrissey. Continuing from it, he writes:

"Ryan acknowledged that the plant had already been slated for shutdown in 2008. That was his point. People voted for him because they thought Obama represented hope to get the plant back in operation. In fact, that had been known since at least February 2008, when Obama came to Janesville to speak, and specifically addressed the plant closure in his remarksdelivered at the plant itself--and promised to keep it and other plants like it open 'for the next hundred years'." [emphasis by Morrissey]

Here, Morrissey has been snagged by one of Ryan's lies. While Ryan directly implies, in the part Morrissey bolded, exactly what Morrissey said--that it was known at the time of Obama's campaign stop that the plant was going to shut down--that is, in fact, false. Obama's visit to the plant occurred in Feb., 2008; GM's decision to close it was first made and announced four months later, in June. The Obama, lacking a time-machine, never addressed the plant closing in his remarks at that stop. So where did Morrissey get that notion? Well, after insulting the reading comprehension skills of Ryan's critics, he either completely misreads what the Obama said or chose to misrepresent it. The former is the most likely explanation, because the poor fool quotes the Obama very noticeably not saying what Morrissey attributes to him:
It was nearly a century ago that the first tractor rolled off the assembly line at this plant.  The achievement didn’t just create a product to sell or profits for General Motors. It led to a shared prosperity enjoyed by all of Janesville.  Homes and businesses began to sprout up along Milwaukee and Main Streets.  Jobs were plentiful, with wages that could raise a family and benefits you could count on.

Prosperity hasn’t always come easily.  The plant shut down for a period during the height of the Depression, and major shifts in production have been required to meet the changing times.  Tractors became automobiles.  Automobiles became artillery shells.  SUVs are becoming hybrids as we speak, and the cost of transition has always been greatest for the workers and their families.

But through hard times and good, great challenge and great change, the promise of Janesville has been the promise of America--that our prosperity can and must be the tide that lifts every boat; that we rise or fall as one nation; that our economy is strongest when our middle-class grows and opportunity is spread as widely as possible.  And when it’s not – when opportunity is uneven or unequal--it is our responsibility to restore balance, and fairness, and keep that promise alive for the next generation.  That is the responsibility we face right now, and that is the responsibility I intend to meet as President of the United States. …

Those are the steps we can take to ease the cost crisis facing working families.  But we still need to make sure that families are working.  We need to maintain our competitive edge in a global by ensuring that plants like this one stay open for another hundred years, and shuttered factories re-open as new industries that promise new jobs.  And we need to put more Americans to work doing jobs that need to be done right here in America.
That's the full portion of the Obama remarks quoted by Morrissey, and it's his bolding, as well. Obama refers to a point in the past when the plant shut down, talks about steps that can be taken to make sure that never happens again, and Morrissey decides this is a reference to a coming plant shut-down, one that had neither been announced nor even decided until months after these remarks.

He concludes:

"Ryan had it exactly right, and the fact checkers have made a mockery of their own profession by stepping all over their own biases to refute Ryan."

In Morrisey's defense, at least he can honestly say facts are definitely not his own profession.

--classicliberal2

34 comments:

scotterb said...

Excellent! I haven't read your blog for awhile, I see you have a wealth of good material here. I look forward to catching up!

classicliberal2 said...

I do try (though I don't always keep it up as I should). Stop by any time.

Niceguy Eddie said...

I've been away too lone as well. Well done.

And to top it all off - that thing that's REALLY insulting - if Obama "failed" to keep the plant open, why was that?

Stimulus not big enough?
Unions not strong enough?
Auto-bailout... IDK... SHOUDLN'T have happened?

Idiots.

At the end of the day, the Party of the guy levelling the complaint wants nothing more than to shut down every last vestige of organzied labor in the country. They support "free trade" agreements, which basically means no more than "send jobs overseas;" they want to break the unions - the very people fighting to keep the plants open and the jobs HERE; and they voted against, and STILL maintain that they did not and do not support, the Auto Bailout - Which basically saved the ENTIRE INDUSTRY and is on track to cost the taxpayers precisely DICK.

So, once again, while there are many reasons to criticize Obama, NONE OF THEM amounts to a single reason to vote Republican!

If the media did thier jobs in the least, instead of pretending there's symmetry when there isn't any, or that the Republicans had a single good idea, when they don't, these RW Fools be lucky to get 10% of the Vote.

Anonymous said...

There is a wealth of something on this blog and it smells like cow waste. So here is some info you brain-dead idiots won't understand but I'll post it anyway.

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/09/11/its-gods-fault/

Maybe one day you can grow up and leave your liberal lunacy behind...

Anonymous said...

Here is some more reality for you- hard as reality is for liberals to grasp:

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/09/12/depending-on-dependency

I'll be posting more links on this blog to counteract all the crap normally found here so stay tuned...

Anonymous said...

Here is some reality about what liberals deranged ideas do to a state.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/29/Report-225-000-Californians-A-Year-Escaping-State-s-High-Taxes-Burdensome-Regulations-Economic-And-Public-Sector-Instability

I know you can't take much truth, but that doesn't change it.

Anonymous said...

Here is another good one illustrating how liberals don't actually think.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/09/battling_the_zombies.html

Anonymous said...

Here is another of my contributions to your misguided attempt to lie to anybody unfortunate enough to stumble upon your propaganda site.

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/10/05/restoring-the-american-dream

Don't choke on the reality...

Anonymous said...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/03/please_do_not_adjust_your_child.html

Clearly you're the product of what Jonescu warns against...

Anonymous said...

Utter garbage... as is every lie that comes out of the mouth of classicliberal2... here is something that won't teach you anything about yourself- but it should tick you off to read...

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/08/31/12-unspoken-rules-for-being-a-liberal-n1687730

Anonymous said...

While this makes a good point:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/09/why_obama_is_floundering.html

The main reason Obama is a complete and utter failure is because he is a liberal. If his mind hadn't been twisted by so deranged a philosophy, one that fails to take into consideration so obvious a relevant factor as human nature, then he would not be so lost and clueless and his presidency wouldn't be an even bigger joke than Carter's.

Anonymous said...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/09/the_myth_of_red_state_welfare.html

You've lied about this in the past so here is some reality for you. Don't choke on it.

Anonymous said...

It is so distasteful to even visit Left Hook! The Lie but I love shoving a little reason and logic in here when I can. And here is a nice little piece on yet another Liberal problem.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/359652/opposing-obamacare-isnt-anarchy-jonah-goldberg

Anonymous said...

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/27/president-obama-lied-to-us-told-america-some-real-whoppers-about-obamacare/?intcmp=HPBucket

Hey look! The hardcore results of idiot liberal ideas in black and white!

Thanks, you socialist swine....

Anonymous said...

Wahoo!!! The Federal Government has shut down! Now if only we can figure out a way to KEEP it that way! :)

Anonymous said...

Here is another one you need to read. Not that you'll grasp so basic a concept as limited government but at least it counters some of the dung found on the rest of your lie-filled blog.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/serving-our-government-masters/

Anonymous said...

A well summed up piece regarding the truth of modern liberalism.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/10/what_democrats_really_care_about.html

At best, liberals are merely morons. I would like to believe that's all they are, but it is becoming increasingly clear that most of them must also be craven, selfish power-mad racists and narcissists.

Obama just might, in the end, prove to help crush their vile goals of total control over everyones life. Because a president so bad (bad because of his liberal "ideas") can't help but be recognized for what he is... just too bad it wasn't revealed before the last election.

Anonymous said...

http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24248486/obamacares-winners-and-losers-bay-area

This piece is an amazing example of liberal stupidity. They didn't realize the idea (Obamacare) would hurt them but they still support it. Wow...

Still, I love to see stories about how modern liberal ideas hurt people.

Suffer!

Anonymous said...

Look, a piece that describe the lying Classicliberal2 perfectly!

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/58924

Anonymous said...

Great piece…

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/11/obama_vs_liberalism.html

You can dress Liberal ideas up, force them on people, lie about them all day long, pretend they are going to save humanity, the planet, society, whatever, then the hard evidence of reality as these failed plans, that take no reality into account in their inception, hurt families, derail personal finances, and generally cause no end of real harm to the society that implements them and, at the end of the day, fools like Classic Liberal will continue to support them. As Obamacare implodes, along with the rest of Obama's deranged Liberal fantasies, lets hope at least enough voters wake up to NEVER allow a foolish liberal into power again. Such an awakening of intelligence may be far-fetched given that Liberals have been in power so long in the US, but one can hope.

Loved this part of the piece especially…

"….if you can picture the Titanic, packed with black plague victims, exploding over Lakewood, NJ, you have a reasonable picture of the enormity and impact of ObamaCare, a fiasco that will cause more damage than any other government-sponsored operation since the heyday of the Marxist dictatorships in the mid-20th century.  While the collectivization of the 1930s and the Great Leap Forward (1958-1962) certainly caused more human suffering, ObamaCare is unique in that it is occurring in a Western democracy, supposedly secure from such government-fomented catastrophes. Literally hundreds of millions of lives are being disrupted by this program. Untold thousands will die prematurely. Tens of thousands will be crippled or dogged by easily-treated disorders. Millions will suffer serious economic stress. It is not impossible that another recession will wrack the country. And there is no way to stop it. Obama's "fix" is mere theater. The avalanche is still headed downhill, the American populace (most of them, as we know, Obama voters) staring at it wide-eyed. I intend to watch from the top of my secure stone tower with interest and sympathy."

I plan on the same, but without any sympathy as I hope everyone that voted for Obama suffers in the most horrible ways possible. It usually takes very painful lessons to educate some people into the hopefully realization at how mentally sick they must have been to support so-called liberal "ideas." Personal responsibility, small government, strong families and communities, and deep moral conviction are the way to make a society strong and healthy.

Anonymous said...

Looks like you've abandoned your little blog of fiction. Sick of all the evidence mounting up that so-called liberal or progressive ideas are really the time-bomb that will destroy a society?

Here is a good one:

http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/learning-through-pain/?singlepage=true

I especially like the title to this one:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/obamacare-where-the-liberal-dream-crashes-and-burns/article15798546/

Liberalism... the mental condition that produce ideas that, when implemented, result in high unemployment, bigger government, less freedom, and LOTS of pain for average Americans. Enjoy the chaos your moronic social goals have created.

Anonymous said...

http://pjmedia.com/blog/what-will-it-take/?singlepage=true

Great piece- and just what you would expect from the ultimate liberal president.

Because Liberalism is the festering disease rotting the brains of the uninformed.

Anonymous said...

Well said....

http://thefederalist.com/2013/12/16/im-reality/

Of course, for Liberals to overcome their aversion to facing reality is a tall order. A very tall order indeed.

Anonymous said...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/29/Harvard-Prof-Tea-Party-Not-Going-Anywhere-More-Likely-to-Win

The best line:

Skocpol observes that the "Tea Party clout has grown in Washington and state capitals" because "Americans are also losing ever more faith in the federal government."

I hope it is terrifying for you, classicliberal2, that Americans are loosing faith in your false god...

Anonymous said...

Your legacy, classicliberal2:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/the_four_freedoms_75_years_of_liberal_betrayal.html#ixzz2p3Hq1YSc

The Four Freedoms: 75 Years of Liberal Betrayal
By Christopher Chantrill


In the second half of the 2000s liberals did a fine job of blaming Bush for everything that went wrong in the US. His "neo-con" supporters, they asserted, were just as bad.
Now that President Obama and his signature legislation are a twin disaster the same opportunity beckons for conservatives. It's not just Obama, it's the whole liberal project that created this mess. So the road to 2016 involves discrediting Obama, but also the whole liberal ruling class.
A good place to start would be FDR's Four Freedoms, for when the campaign to elect the un-Obama kicks off in 2016 it will be 75 years since Franklin Delano Roosevelt unveiled his Four Freedoms on January 6, 1941. In case you forgot, the freedoms were:
Freedom of Speech
Freedom of Worship
Freedom from Want
Freedom from Fear
Have you ever thought about how the liberals have utterly betrayed the noble sentiments of the Four Freedoms?
Nothing personal here. It's just that all power corrupts, and liberal power corrupts absolutely.....

Read more -http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/the_four_freedoms_75_years_of_liberal_betrayal.html#ixzz2p3Hq1YSc

Anonymous said...

Here is something you should really learn about what that government you love and worship so much is actually doing:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbasile/2014/01/31/obamas-weaponization-of-government/

And you were afraid of Bush...

Anonymous said...

Has the uninformed classicliberal2 at last realized how crazy his ravings were and shut up? No word since August so one hopes he's realized the error of Liberal ways. This latest is a real gem-

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/14/knight-when-you-give-liberals-the-oval-office/?page=all#pagebreak

When you get liberals in power, things really do just keep rolling downhill. Ah, reality shoved in your face hurts, doesn't it?

Anonymous said...

Still nothing since August... has classicliberal2 grown up, perhaps? Realized the twisted evil that festers in modern liberalism? Doubtful... but here, just in case you need further evidence... liberals hate free speech, they hate freedom-
http://washingtonexaminer.com/examiner-editorial-lois-lerner-stays-silent-to-protect-someone-outside-the-irs/article/2545145

Anonymous said...

Interesting what your people will support if it hurts decent people....

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303603904579493831524666494?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303603904579493831524666494.html

I'm sure classicliberal2 fully supports Democrats in their efforts to punish people for exercising their rights to free speech. After all, Liberals are little more than communists. Hating freedom in all its forms that does not conform to their mantra they will do anything to shut up liberty-loving Americans.

Guess that's why Left Hook! The LIE! has been silent all these several months as one lie, one criminal act, one petty attack after another has been exposed and has pummeled that idiot in the White House.

Where are your lies now in support of Obama and the destructive, amoral Liberal Agenda?????

Anonymous said...

Wow... Socialism doesn't work??? Actually, only an idiot would think otherwise.

http://www.nysun.com/national/socialism-emerges-as-culprit-br-in-scandal/88722/

Best part:

Don’t tell me the problem is not enough government money. That is nonsense. Everyone should go read John Merline’s article in Investor’s Business Daily headlined “VA Health Spending Soars as Vets Decline.” Here are some of his numbers: From 2000 to 2013, VA outlays nearly tripled while the population of veterans declined by 4.3 million. And Medicaid-care spending, which consumes about 40 percent of the VA’s budget, has climbed 193 percent over those years, while the number of patients served by the VA each year went up only 68 percent.

Money dumped into the VA... way up!
Quality of service... way down!
Further evidence that government should stick to its basic functions instead of sticking its nose into EVERYTHING....

I know most libs hate members of the military but will you still worship Obama when his so-called health care program kills one of your loved ones?

Anonymous said...

More reality for the thought-challenged Left:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/they-had-dream_793497.html?nopager=1#

The author states that Obamacare has hurt progressive causes for years... let's hope it ultimately destroyed them in favor of the individual and his rights.

Anonymous said...

Ah, more reality shoved into the face of idiot liberals:

http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/05/doctor_reveals_the_va_hospitals_real_problem.html

Markets, not centralized planning by government stooges, produces the best results.

Of course, liberals don't care if people actually die or suffer- so long as they feel good about what they are doing - to heck with the actual results - then it's all okay.

Such a lack of basic human concern, of human caring and compassion, are sadly the hallmark of modern liberals. Left Hook, the Lieblog doesn't even bother to respond anymore.... Maybe reality has, at last, dawned upon him...

Anonymous said...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/05/isnt_it_time_republicans_link_the_va_scandal_to_obamacare.html

Another who gets it and reveals the lies and disgusting tactics used by modern liberals to force their twisted agenda down the throats of Americans.

Help America put down the dangerous agenda of the Left... vote for the Tea Party or, at the very least, Republicans.

Anonymous said...

Nearly a year now of silence from Left Hook! The Lie! And witness the glories of Obama:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/07/03/is-obama-giving-up-or-going-soviet/?singlepage=true

Obama is a lier and the root of his evil stems from his liberal "philosophy" of stealing what isn't his to redistribute to those that voted for him. He is SO GREAT a failure BECAUSE he is SO BIG a liberal.

Liberalism- destroying lives and countries and full of supporters too ignorant to see reality. Maybe the silence is classicliberal2's FINAL realization that he's been wrong all along.